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[Phil413]

I was listening to part of Glenn's radio show this AM. He had Michele Malkin on and was screaming at her because she, along with just about every other pundit on the Right, think his interview with Massa tonight is going to go terribly wrong in a hurry. At one point he even said to her; "you people...." (referring to many Conservatives in various media outlets) and then he realized what he said and spent the next several minutes apologizing to her, even after she had hung up following their conversation.

His schtick of late is wearing pretty thin. He seems to be working his way into Michael Savage and Alex Jones territory. His tv show this afternoon with Massa may not be a; "Jump the Shark" moment but he's definitely standing on the ramp looking at the water below.

[Dopes4change]

Massa knows the "health care" bill is the biggest giveaway to insurance companies in the history of mankind.

Do I care if Bernie Sanders is a socialist if he wants to audit the Federal Reserve too? No, he's an ally. In the same vein, Massa may advocate single-payer, but as long as he will tell the truth on what is in this bill, he's an ally of transparent government, no matter how seemingly (or likely) self-serving he is being while doing it, it's getting a message out that needs to be gotten out, from a former insider.
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[Defilade]

Dopes4change wrote:

Massa knows the "health care" bill is the biggest giveaway to insurance companies in the history of mankind. Do I care if Bernie Sanders is a socialist if he wants to audit the Federal Reserve too? No, he's an ally. In the same vein, Massa may advocate single-payer, but as long as he will tell the truth on what is in this bill, he's an ally of transparent government, no matter how seemingly (or likely) self-serving he is being while doing it, it's getting a message out that needs to be gotten out, from a former insider.

exactly!
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[Defilade]

Hey Phil! Got a book you should buy!! it called "American Conspiracies" by the Former Governor Jesse Venture. You might get some education from DOCUMENTED FACTS in the book instead of listening to Beck. See, the true comes out a little at a time...

http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-on-nbc-today-show/
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[CMB]

Phil413 wrote:

His schtick of late is wearing pretty thin. He seems to be working his way into Michael Savage and Alex Jones territory.

Welcome to the party, pal.
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[Defilade]

Massa telling it like it is, I'll give the guy credit. He's telling it like it is!

http://www.infowars.com/massa-rahm-emanuel-would-sell-his-own-mother-for-votes/
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[Phil413]

I've never looked to Glenn Beck as the paragon of leadership for a movement, because based on what I have heard and seen for myslef, I don't think he knows where he's going on any given day. I believe he makes many valid points but he also ends up out in the weeds quite frequently. I prefer a more reserved debating position, say along the lines of Charles Krauthammer or Stephen Hayes. I also am inclined to argue that the best way for Conservatives to take a stand is from within the Republican Party.

[Phil413]

So Glen, how did the big fat crap sandwich you get fed taste?

"I think I've wasted your time. I think this is the first time I have wasted an hour of your time and I apologize for that.""

No, really? Did you honestly believe that somehow all your fellow Conservative pundits who are much more familiar with the Congressman's antics were wrong, and only you knew better?

You might want to give Henry Winkler a call. After that, call Michelle Malkin and tell her she was right and you were wrong.

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[java1]

To bad the Republican party is nothing more than a shill for ever bigger government. The only people more nervous than the rensubs is Rush who knows his lies are coming back to haunt him.Fact ,Rush said that deficits do not matter,Fact Rush says running against Bush would be a mistake,Fact Rush the idiot is now warning against the power of Iran when Saddam was the exact counter weight we needed .Do not be led down this road from these people who spout there claims with out ever serving in the military.

Beck has Rush and the other lap dogs on the edge of there seats .They know that they can no longer justify there BS and No one wants to have this discussion more than true conservatives.

So lets finally have a debate on what conservatism actually means .I have been waiting for years for this debate. Oh ,dam I forgot ,Rushes hero Bush voted for the medicare prescription act,tarp ,no child left behind ,and the Iraq war which is going on close to one trillion.Wow ,what a conservative he was and Rush was his lap dog and that is a FACT.

[Phil413]

Yeah, sure. Today's 5PM show really made Beck look like a genius. It reminded me of Geraldo chasing after Capone's vault. That was a giant waste of my time too.

[Dopes4change]

java1 wrote:

To bad the Republican party is nothing more than a shill for ever bigger government. The only people more nervous than the rensubs is Rush who knows his lies are coming back to haunt him.Fact ,Rush said that deficits do not matter,Fact Rush says running against Bush would be a mistake,Fact Rush the idiot is now warning against the power of Iran when Saddam was the exact counter weight we needed .Do not be led down this road from these people who spout there claims with out ever serving in the military. Beck has Rush and the other lap dogs on the edge of there seats .They know that they can no longer justify there BS and No one wants to have this discussion more than true conservatives. So lets finally have a debate on what conservatism actually means .I have been waiting for years for this debate. Oh ,dam I forgot ,Rushes hero Bush voted for the medicare prescription act,tarp ,no child left behind ,and the Iraq war which is going on close to one trillion.Wow ,what a conservative he was and Rush was his lap dog and that is a FACT.

The Republican Party that said the government's version of security is more important than your freedom is the same Republican Party that can only stand for the Constitution once their temple is demolished and rebuilt from the foundation up.
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[java1]

As usual the rush fans who are by and large good people who Love this country do not want to engage in this discussion.The reasons are obvious and I only wish them well in there sincere interest in the USA.

But Rush has been lying to the people 80 percent of the time and getting away with it .We are at a crossroads here and it is time for any leader to stand up and make the tough decisions that need to be made and I am not talking about taking out another enemy of Isreal ,( think Krauhtammer of Kirstol or the Imbecile Rush ) ,but the real enemy which is our deficit. Now the dems do not want to be the one holding the bag when the public finds out that we have been lied to by most of them for decades and they will try to pass the buck to any one they can .But with Bush who accelerated the spending beyond control there only is both parties to blame.

What you have to understand is that it has been a shell game going on for years and now the time as come to a end .Rush Knows full well that he has been a stooge for the real conservative movement and He will never ever answer that question on the air. The dems are looking to hang there failures on any one and it is easy to make the GOP there target because they do just enough to make them there scape goats.

Rush loves the GOP and hates independents .Of course he might say he loves Conservatives first but his in action on Bushes spending spree makes him a joke and he is trying to Blame Beck for his true conservative values .

[Phil413]

Good lord man, you are obsessed. Did Rush Limbaugh snub you at a book signing once upon a time or something? Who is it you're hoping to debate about his positions? I can't remember the last time I read any of the posters here holding him up as their personal Conservative Standard Bearer. Maybe you should go to the next get-together Rochester Veteran mentions from time to time and get this bitterness off your chest once and for all, and then move on with your life.

[Spike]

I watched Beck and seen he was getting frustrated with Massa. I think Massa is having a breakdown and is very close to the edge if not over it already. He needs to see a psychiatrist for help. Beck was looking for names from Massa and was getting nothing.
Massa is history. or another way to put it just plain nuts.
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[java1]

You poor souls ,or maybe I am being nice and I hate name calling.Massa being sent to pasture was a message to the fence sitting dems that you had better vote for Obamas plan or else .He was no doubt a sacrificial lamb who Pelosi knew was expendable because for the most part we are a conservative district .

Wake up people .The dems and the resubs are both playing the people on this country.People on this site will call me names and say I hate Rush but they will NEVER ever debate me on the facts. Rush is a loudmouth clown who has no idea about what is going on any more.He supported Bush to a fault and Because of his arrogance can not admit his mistake.

We spent close to a trillion ,yes a trillion dollars in Iraq and now Iran is much stronger.Once again Rush conservatives ( I wish to no longer call them fake conservatives because they are just misled by the so called smart Rush ) and have no idea how much harm Bush And Rush heaped on the USA.

As always I will debate libs and now unfortunately Resnubs on the problems facing the USA and what needs to be done to fix them.

[Phil413]

Did you watch the same Glenn Beck as everyone else in this country? He pushed Massa repeatedly for specifics to back up his claim about being forced out and the ex-Congressman never gave any. He did however admit that there will be email transcripts forthcoming which depict him in an incredibly bad light. Even his hand-picked successor (who has since declined the seat) the Mayor of Hornell says Massa has gone off the deep-end. I suppose he's part of this big conspiracy too?

[Defilade]

Phil413 wrote:

I've never looked to Glenn Beck as the paragon of leadership for a movement, because based on what I have heard and seen for myslef, I don't think he knows where he's going on any given day. I believe he makes many valid points but he also ends up out in the weeds quite frequently. I prefer a more reserved debating position, say along the lines of Charles Krauthammer or Stephen Hayes. I also am inclined to argue that the best way for Conservatives to take a stand is from within the Republican Party.

Krauthammer and that other clown Kristol from the Weekly Standard where you get your "News" from are a couple of NEO-CON Zionist Jews in huge support of wars in the middle east to support Isreal. They Both were in favor and I'll bet still today trying to Brainwash people in believing these wars are just. It seems that the whole Bush Cabinet right on down the line where a bunch of Neo-Cons.. and we see them in the Obama cabinet to.
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[Sue M]

Did any of you folks catch Lonsberry's show yesterday? Lonsberry came out and said he had first hand knowledge of Massa inappropriately touching bunk mates back in his Navy day's. Lonsberry said he's known this info for four year's. That's why Massa really left office and Beck gave him a chance to "tell the truth" today. I'm sure the Pelosi gang knew all about this and used it to make him resign because Massa was not going to vote yes on Obamacare. They probably have been holding this over Massa's head for a long time and found the opportunity to use this info.

And, I don't think Lonsberry would put his job in jeapardy by stating this on the radio if it was not true. HE said there was two incidences told to him by people who served with Massa year's ago.

Nothing surprises me anymore.
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[Spike]

Lonsberry who? that name rings a bell.
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[Sue M]

Now, Spike, you know who....the guy that started POPSNY.
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