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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Presidential Debate #2 Live-Blog (Fri. 10/8) Reply with quote Back to top

Presidential Debate 2004

So, Mark, what's up with the graphic Question

Well, I'm looking at tonight's "domestic" debate from a little different perspective. With the 1st debate, regarding foriegn policy, there were clear llines drawn. If you are "right-leaning" like me then you probably figure Bush has the right idea and Kerry has it all wrong. Sure, neither is perfect, or even close, and while the policies may be similar, there are distinctly different flavors in play.

Tonight, to me, is more about what the debaters have in common. Thus the graphic. Don't get me wrong, I'm backing Bush. I think he is clearly the better choice. But while Bush is pretty conservative standing next to Kerry, he is no conservative. From a domestic standpoint this is a choice between really, really bad and even worse.

What you will not hear about tonight is what really matters. Neither candidate will have anything useful to say about immigration, which is perhaps the single most important domestic issue. Nor will you hear anything about reducing the size or the role of government (at least nothing truthful).

That being said, let the games begin. All we can do is chew on what we are given. I don't think a Bush victory is really neccesary, contrary to what the media hype is, but I would certainly be encouraged to see one.

Let 'er rip...


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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fair warning, DD is late getting to bed so I will be distracted and leaving breifly to tuck her in at some point.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The audience is made up of "undecided's". this should be good, a room full of dopes.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Question #1, Kerry, are you wishy-washy Question

"I have a plan, that's not wishy-washy"

Bush's response: He is.

Kerry looks like a Zombie

I score that one for Bush.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

question #2 - was the war justified?

Bush went after the UN scam, made a premptive strike by addressing the new "ISG" report.

Kerry: Bush is attacking me. "I have never changed my mind about Iraq"

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Why are their Iraq questions Question
I thought this was a "domestic issues" debate Question
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Bush comes out with the "global test".
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

OK, I suck at watching and typing. No more listing the questions, I'll just comment on any interesting statements. I'll post a transcript later.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush says "what's kerry gonna say, come join me in the wrong war at the wrong time". This was one of his better points from the first debate.

So far this is like a condensed version of debate one.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Glad to see Bush mention UNSCAM.

Bush is now talking about Reagan, that can't hurt.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush needs to calm down a bit. There is a fine line between fired-up and angry.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What the hell is with "winning the peace".
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry stated that Shinseki was fired over troop levels. That is a lie. The guy retired ferchissake Exclamation
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry slammed the US for developing "bunker busters" AGAIN.

what a chump.

Bush made a joke about wanting to scowl Laughing

Now he is cracking a grin while slamming Kerry. It's like he can read my mind. Maybe I'll just start typing suggestions instead.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush: "WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DRAFT"

I hope all the dumb-ass college kids were listening.

9:28pm on a Friday, not likely Rolling Eyes
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

YOW Exclamation

Bush is taking no BS tonight. He cut off the the moderator to forcefully reply to Kerry.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry went with the 90% of costs and casualties stuff again. Bush should stuff him with the same response the Cheney stuffed Edwards with on Tues.

We'll see...
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry said "countries pay the price for aligning with us". Didn't he learn anything from Australia
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush said "working hard". Let's hope he keeps it to once or twice.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Why didn't bush call Kerry on the Draft thing when he had the chance. Why not mention that it was Dem sponsored.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush just stated that he may well say it's OK for the import of drugs by December?

I'm OK with that but this position is news to me Confused
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush upped the ante, says "if they're safe, they're comming"


Really Question
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry says "we fixed medicare" Laughing

Tell that to the people on it.

Ohhh, and he put down the gipper. Bad move Kerry.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think I've heard "I have a plan" at least 20 times already tonight. Just to be fair, I'll call it 10 and start a count as of now.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kerry squeaks in 2 more "I have a plan"
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bush gets on Kerry for supposedly being for award caps but not showing up to vote on it.

"Senator Gone", it worked well before.
 
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Kerry is playing class warfare. Kerry doen't play the part of "common man" very well.
 
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